Riding in the snow

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Riding in the snow

Postby mark » Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:08 pm

Two weeks before Xmas I spooned a set of studded knobby tires onto my XR650L:
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I rode them a few times on dry pavement, and they felt surprisingly good -- not the best for cornering, of course, but more stable than I expected.

It's snowed a bit this week, so I just got back from a short 30-mile ride to see how the studded tires do on snowy dirt roads. Answer: not bad, but not great. I kept the bike upright the whole ride, but they definitely felt pretty squirrelly, especially the rear. Actually, the front felt pretty planted the whole time, but the rear was squirming around a lot. A slightly denser knobby pattern, like a Dunlop D606 or even Conti TKC80, might actually do a lot better with one stud in each knob. I suspect the rear I'm using just has too much space between the knobs and not enough is grabbing the road surface.

For the most part these roads had that thin snow-pack that's turned brown from mixing with the dirt below. At one point I had to stop for an intersection, and when I put my foot down I found the surface very slippery. So all things considered, the studded tires did pretty well, I suppose -- I'm pretty sure I would have fallen repeatedly on non-studded tires.

Still, they felt squirmy enough that I had to keep my speed way down, and the ride wasn't really fun enough to be worth the tension. Curious to see, though, whether they feel any better once there's a little more snow-pack on the roads.

On pavement, both dry and wet, they feel pretty good. Haven't tried icy/snowy pavement yet. So far we've only gotten three or four inches of snow here in Burlington, spaced out over a week. Will be curious to see how these tires do once we get more snow.

Hell, if they make it possible for me to get out once every couple weeks for 30 miles, I'll be happy -- better than sitting around at home wishing I could ride.

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Postby Spad » Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:09 pm

Is there enough snow now? :)

I'm curious to see how it works for you, although I think the cold issue would keep me from trying it. Can you jack heated gear into the Honda?

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Postby mark » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:39 am

Yeah, it's got heated grips and a power cord for a heated vest.

I'll probably try to get out for a bit this weekend.

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Postby Spad » Tue Jan 05, 2010 12:09 pm

You should find plenty of the packed snow that you were looking for. I don't have any experience with studded motorcycle tires but I suspect you're right that they'll bite better in snowpack than in slush-and-sand. I'm surprised that the Honda's got the headroom on the alternator for the heated gear but that's great! Have a blast. If the weather stays like this it should be great to be outside.

Did you use official studs in the tires, or the old school sheet metal screws in the knobs?

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Postby mark » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:44 am

The Honda's alternator doesn't have a whole lot of headroom, but it does okay as long as I don't turn the grips and vest up to high. If I keep both on low it's fine.

The studs are regular car ones. I actually got the tires pre-studded from a local guy on ADVrider who ran them last winter and didn't need them anymore -- he put ice tires on this year and is only running his bike on the lake.

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Postby Spad » Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:32 pm

I was down in MA last winter, where they run races on the ice - in Winchester I think - but didn't get to go see them. Does someone plow an oval up on the northern part of the lake to race up that way or do they just tool around on the ice? I've got to think racing other bikes with ice tires on them takes a certain disregard for the condition of your own body. I know the racers have fenders over more of the tire, but it still looks too much like a wood chipper.

I picked up a used heated vest toward the end of last summer, but it only has two options - 'ON' and 'OFF'. I'll eventually pick up one of the electronic controllers for it, so that I can adjust it a bit more on the fly. The V-Strom has heated grips too, so that might make riding to the end of the season a little more comfortable. I stop when the roads get snow but having on fewer layers would be nice.
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Postby mark » Thu Jan 07, 2010 10:47 am

Yeah, a heated vest really helps.

And I'm a little scared of spiked ice tires too.

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